When ought to we modify or cease following a betting technique?

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When to vary methods is a extremely vital query and my reply to that has modified over time.

The brief reply is, select methods the place you imagine the core logic behind them after which observe them for a really long run, for no less than 6 months (or no less than over 100 bets for every particular person technique), to have an opportunity of getting the income we noticed within the historic knowledge. We now have to stay with them for no less than 6 months/100 bets to get by the pure constructive and detrimental variance durations of regular methods. If you attain 100 bets of a technique that you simply select, then overview it and resolve if you wish to observe it for an additional 100 bets. I then resolve to maintain or cease utilizing a technique if it seems to be like it’s persevering with its long run development or if its outcomes have considerably modified, which suggests a change available in the market mannequin. The technique exceeding its Most Drawdown is one statistic I would use to think about stopping a technique, one other is that if its constructive/detrimental variance swings have modified to being even to a extra constant detrimental route. A betting technique that doesn’t work is one that’s only a fixed -4% yield, which is the bookmaker margin working completely at Pinnacle. In case you make a technique that simply bets on all house wins, you will notice this -4% yield. That’s how accurately working betting markets ought to work for bookmakers, so markets which have flat or barely constructive developments are ones that aren’t working and we are able to get worth bets from.

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The above picture is how bookmaker markets ought to work. They get excellent long run revenue (-3.45% for bettors) with some constructive and detrimental variance (good and unhealthy runs).

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(One of many publicly shared methods on www.betaminic.com’s Betamin Builder Software)

This picture is how we are able to discover a development that beats the bookmaker, however it’s long run and it additionally has flat and unhealthy runs that we should not hand over on, and we additionally want a staking plan and betting financial institution administration to maintain going by the unhealthy runs to take advantage of the great runs. I believe that’s both Whitaker staking or Proportion staking, relying in your system. However one other approach to take a look at this technique is that it identifies a price market, the over x.5 objectives markets for this fixture. It doesn’t simply give us one worth wager. It factors us to a market the place all of the objective associated markets will probably be worth and the bookmaker and most people often get it mistaken. So we are able to unfold threat and get extra worth out of associated objective markets.

An enormous mistake I made previously was giving up on methods after a giant shedding run or after 2 shedding months after which lacking their worthwhile runs and months.

For instance, I’d take a look at the highest rated methods within the Betamin Builder and observe the highest 10. However these high 10 methods are on the high of the rankings as a result of they’ve simply had a giant constructive run. It’s like becoming a member of a rollercoaster close to the highest, or shopping for shares when they’re a excessive worth. My methods would then make revenue for just a few weeks, however then go detrimental as they returned to their pure development line with a interval of detrimental variance. After 2 months of unhealthy outcomes, I’d cease utilizing these methods and choose the brand new high 10 methods within the Betamin builder and the identical sample repeated. Then the methods I gave up on modified from their detrimental run to a constructive run and I missed their good run as these methods returned to the highest of the Betaminic rankings! A great instance of that is the Colossus 06 and the Not house on. methods. Colossus 06 had a flat run in the course of 2021, it lasted practically 6 months, however just a few months in the past it had a giant constructive run once more. It’s now on a detrimental run once more now, however it would return to constructive outcomes once more. Not Residence on obtained to the 100 ranking on Betaminic for some time final 12 months, I adopted it, and it turned detrimental, however I didn’t hand over and now it’s in a successful run once more. This balances with Colossus 06’s shedding run now.

Right here is my historical past of utilizing Betaminic:

2017-12 The Colossus 21 set – I picked the highest performing methods based mostly on all their knowledge, solely AP (All Interval outcomes) and no LP (Reside Interval/Since created outcomes) as a result of they had been all new methods. The set carried out nicely for 4 months however then most stopped making revenue. A number of of them are nonetheless in revenue right this moment. After I refresh these methods with the newest knowledge, they typically present income once more for some time earlier than a few of them go flat or detrimental. A number of them preserve making revenue long run with or with out refreshing , however appear to have higher outcomes after refreshing with the newest knowledge. This means that researching with the freshest knowledge may discover a working set that lasts for 1-2 months earlier than needing refreshing once more. However some methods work very long run for those who stick to them by unhealthy runs. (7 of the 21 Colossus21 methods from 2017 are nonetheless in revenue long run with no knowledge updates: Yield 3%+ Colossus 01, 06, 14; Yield 0-3% Colossus 03, 10, 12, 19)

2018-9 The Confirmed 8 set – I attempted splitting the info to create a Analysis Interval (RP) and a Check Interval (TP) with the info. It carried out nicely for two months however then slowed and went detrimental after 11 months. (Solely Pro7 remains to be in revenue.)

2019-1 The Better of 2018 set – I attempted following the highest performing methods from 2018. Once more it labored for two months, however then slowed and went detrimental after 6 months.

2019-7 The Finest Betaminic Rankings set – I attempted to observe the highest 12 methods by Betaminic ranking. This time it went detrimental instantly, however pulled again as much as +54 factors revenue after 3 months, after which went very risky between negatives and positives after that with swings of +/-50 factors in a month which broken my betting financial institution.

2019-10 The Mixed19 Set – I attempted utilizing a mixture of the long run winners from the Colossus 21, Confirmed 8 and high Betaminic rated methods. Once more, it went nicely for 3 months, however went detrimental after that.

2020 I saved eradicating poor performers, including in new winners and had inconsistent outcomes. The time used putting giant numbers of bets was getting tough so I attempted to discover a approach to semi-automate the betting and managed to do it with the Bf Bot Supervisor. I requested Betaminic if they might create a direct hyperlink which they did at the beginning of 2021.

2021-2 The BDS-54, BDS-44, BDS-36 units – I attempted working as lots of the high methods along with the brand new automated system. It made revenue for two months (doubling the financial institution twice) after which went detrimental. This means that utilizing the freshest knowledge is beneficial.

2021-4 The BSG-18 custom-made set – I attempted decreasing choose prices by modifying the methods to suit collectively. The BSG-18 set went detrimental over the following 4 months.

2021-9 The BDS-15 – I used a recent knowledge snapshot to pick out the present greatest performing methods. I additionally used staking software program (TSM) to research historic outcomes and made a custom-made staking plan. I additionally improved my bot set and add-on bots. This had nice success, going up 90% within the first week, however ending the month on +28%.

2021-10 The TW-16 – Betaminic elevated the quantity of leagues of their database from 57 to 111 leagues. I recreated the present high methods with the identical settings, however utilizing the expanded league choice. This meant that every one the highest methods had been refreshed with the newest knowledge when filtering leagues. I additionally elevated my financial institution measurement to three,000 with the intention to cowl choose prices but in addition as a part of a plan to maneuver to a month-to-month model of recording efficiency. The outcomes had been actually constructive. +60% with Betfair odds and +30% with Pinnacle odds.

2021-11 The TW-10 I reviewed my technique decisions, eliminated 7 methods and added 1 new one. Then I re-ran the methods by staking software program and degree stakes got here up as one of many easiest methods to get good outcomes from the methods. Its outcomes had been -20 factors after 18 days, however this was all throughout the historic variance ranges, although it was disappointing.

2021-11-19 The AT-7 I modified my technique alternative after getting involved with an ex-bookmaker. The AT-7 focusses on going in opposition to the development to wager on unpopular picks that the bookmaker fashions and public cash push odds up into worth ranges.

2021-12 Added 2 methods into my AT-7 Towards the Development set. The brand new AT-9 had a detrimental P/L in December however the add-on bots made it flat December.

2022-3 I ran the AT-9 for practically 4 months and through that point I experimented with new bots that targeted on by-product markets. These new bots had actually good outcomes. The AT-9 made a loss on degree stakes of -29%, however my additional bets, bots and staking plan helped it make a revenue of +8%.

2022-4 I began utilizing the brand new bot set that wager on much more by-product markets with an up to date AT-10 set. I eliminated 2 methods and added in 3 extra. However 2 of the brand new ones are similar to the two that had been eliminated, they had been simply barely higher variations in my view. So I’ve nonetheless been following the identical fundamental system for over 6 months.

My conclusion from this expertise is:

· There are inefficient developments within the bookmaker fashions that we are able to benefit from, however we want good financial institution administration to get by a 6 month interval to present it an opportunity.

· I believe there’s something that works within the Betaminic system, however I’m not constant at making it work but.

· I believe putting additional bets pre-match on associated markets and in addition in-play can get extra worth out of Betaminic methods.

· My intestine feeling is to unfold threat by following bigger numbers of methods slightly than just a few methods.

So you may see from my historical past that my error was following methods on the high of the rankings and giving up too quickly after they went on a shedding run. So now I believe it’s higher to decide on methods you imagine in, for me the AT-10 Towards the Development methods. I’ll observe them and overview them after 6 months (or after 100 bets from a single technique). I additionally suppose that putting additional pre-match bets on associated markets will help rather a lot.

Do you wager manually or with the BF Bot Supervisor automated betting software program on Betfair?


In the mean time I’m following these 10 methods: (I checklist them so as of my confidence in them.)


All of those methods observe an “Towards the Development” model of betting. After speaking with a man who used to work for sportsbooks, I actually suppose this model of technique has the perfect likelihood of working long run.


I additionally place additional bets on the picks on related “by-product” markets. So, for instance, if I’ve an over 2,5 objective choose, then I place additional bets on the over 0.5 FT, 0.5 HT, and 1.5 FT markets, too. I name my system the AT-10 system.


The AT-10 System, further pre-match and in-play wager triggers

I’ve break up the system into 4 market varieties, Overs, Residence Wins, Unders and Attracts. I’m utilizing share staking plans for every wager sort. You need to use it with one massive linked financial institution or 4 separate betting banks for every market sort. (Personally, I’m utilizing 4 separate betting banks for every market sort.) You may observe every system with only one technique or with a number of methods of that market sort. I put my really helpful Betaminic set off technique first with further really helpful methods on the appropriate. You may observe this technique betting manually or with automated betting bots. You may observe it with Betfair, Pinnacle, Bet365 or another bookmaker. If you’re betting manually, all the time take a bit additional time to go searching for the perfect odds. It might make an even bigger distinction than you think about in the long term.


I’m utilizing share staking with these bets.


I share my outcomes on Reddit. You’re welcome to hitch the group. I’m attempting to make a neighborhood of Betaminic customers there.

My newest outcomes from this AT-10 set is on there.


I additionally put some details about my really helpful system on my web site

By sharing my concepts, I’ve gotten assist and recommendation over time that has helped me develop this technique. It could be nice if we might assist one another make it work even higher. Please let me know if you wish to use my bot set or have questions or concepts about my system.


If you’re betting manually, then I’d suggest the two Overs and Unders techniques as a result of they’re primarily pre-match bets. You may break up your bets between the over 0.5 HT, 1.5 FT, 1.5 FT and a couple of.5 FT objective bets for over picks, and underneath 4.5 FT, 3.5 FT, 2.5 FT and 1.5 HT objective bets for underneath picks. I actually suggest splitting your stake over the 4 markets to get extra likelihood for worth odds. The Residence Win System and Draw system can be simply regular house win and draw pre-match bets. The add-on bets are in-play bets relying on the in-play stats.

If you wish to use my bot set for automated betting with the Bf Bot Supervisor, e mail me at [email protected]

Thanks for studying this far!

Author: Patrick Thomas